May 30, 2015
Jesus: There is so much more to the refining fire of enemies than anyone is truly aware of. They are My refining fire, a force to be reckoned with when loosed, a force to be pitied when bound and I have total control at all times.
Clare: Oh Lord, that part is so challenging. How can You allow things to happen such as this ruthless killing?
Before I go on with the Lord answering this question, I just wanted to make you aware of another video where He explained the destiny of certain souls that is agreed upon before they're born into this world and that plays as a factor into this as well. There are things we just don't know about the creation of that soul and about their agreement with God at that time that they were sent into their bodies. We just don't know what their destiny is and the Lord does know and He understands and there is an agreement there.
Jesus: That's just the problem Clare, you are not Me and you do not see as I see. You have only one millisecond to the whole plan, a flake of frost on a tip of an iceberg. Oh, there's so much more to see, but for now I ask only that you to trust Me and listen.
Clare: Sorry.
Jesus: No, nothing to be sorry about, I anticipated your reaction and it fits right in with the thoughts of others as well.
When you hear a story told, you get only one side and the current one at that. Beneath that tiny flake of frost, is an iceberg of history. Things that never entered peoples' minds because they don't think as I think, nor do they care to know what I think. That is why so many things are a mystery to them. That does not mean to not be empathetic and pray. No, brotherly love and prayer are extremely important. You could be in their shoes tomorrow. There are generational curses, hidden sins, cultural influences, inter-relational dynamics between each person involved and even their generational curses. Things that go back hundreds and even sometimes thousands of years. This does not occur to the casual bystander but the angels are aware that is why you will at times feel strong warnings, not to do something or to go somewhere or get involved with someone. Your angels can see what's coming. Holy Spirit will also recoil with apprehension on your conscience. I do protect you, but once you step outside the realm of obedience, I can no longer protect you as I wish to. You see the demons are My policemen. They wait in line all day to sift the believer. Sometimes they line up around the block, so to speak, just to get one shot at a soul. Once a believer has crossed the line and disobeyed, however, permission is given but only so far. In other words, what they are allowed to do or not do is controlled by My permission. In other situations, I allow the demons permission because I'm perfecting a soul in virtue and patience, forgiveness. And virtue needs to be cultivated. At the very same time when I allow an attack from the demon, I know how it will affect the soul and that they will in turn pray for those who are being used to attack. Very often those souls have no one to pray for them and the one whom they attack are My very last resort to find intercessors. This has been the case on your channel as well. Those who have attacked you for no reason at all are in serious need of intercession. Their salvation is at stake.
Clare: Oh Lord, that is so very sad.
Jesus: It is indeed. Clare, I need your prayers for them. You see, some people have been brought up to believe that I'm a God of harshness, hatred and punishment. This is because people around them misrepresented Me. They were controlled by a religious spirit that is simply a demon very often of judgement, bitterness, unforgiveness and criticism; mixed with persecution in the belief that they are acting in righteousness to correct false prophets. They in a sense become the savior and god because they are taking My role upon themselves. This parallels the messiah complex except instead of taking on the sins of the world, they become the prosecuting attorney and judge passing judgement on everyone that does not live up to their harsh image of Me. You see they are not used to hearing Me as a gentle and loving God. They cannot imagine the face of the innocent newborn being the very accurate image of My loving Father's own face as you do. They see Him as mean and cruel and continually corrective of fallen mankind in whom there is no good thing, turning thunderbolts of justice and wanting to annihilate anyone who fall short of their idea of holiness. It is because they are so eaten up with hatred,judgement, bitterness and even jealousy that they're in dire danger of losing their souls. But in their understanding, it is all the others that are going to hell, while they are the only holy savior making corrections with harsh attack at anyone they consider a heretic.
You see, you have found Me to be gentle, kindly and helpful when you fall. You didn't always see Me this way. But because you've opened your heart to Mine, you do. For instance when you were in the grocery store, very very tired and didn't use the best judgement in what you bought. You came home feeling badly and even very badly that you should be harshly punished and what did I say to you?
Clare: Your so sweet Jesus.I just melted in repentance and you said I will help you make better decisions next time.
Jesus: And this is truly My nature. It is My kindness that leads to repentance with gentle souls and sometimes even violent souls. When they feel My love and forgiveness wash over them they melt and repentance flows like a river from their sinful souls. It is only with stubborn self willed and obtuse souls, that I Am at times forced to use more forceful corrections which I hate. So when I see others doing this to My chosen vessels, I love them unconditionally but I'm not happy with their behavior yet I allow it because they need prayer. I understand that they don't truly who I Am. I Am a God of righteousness but I tenderly carry the lambs in My arms and lead the years with wisdom and gentleness. I even speak this way to My shepherds so that they will in turn learn the language of love. Love and righteousness cannot be separated. They go hand in hand. Some are of the impression that they can wield the sword with righteousness and love is not even in the picture. They don't feel loved. They feel hatred, anger and bitterness. They wield unkind words in an unkind way and then expect everyone to obey them and all they do is run from them. This causes them to sink more deeply into bitterness and judgement.
You see My sheep know My voice and in another they will not follow., So without love, it is impossible to lead My sheep or to correct and guide them and never should the motives of others be judged. That is My job and My job alone. Those who do this do not know Me. They know a Jesus who is not kind and tender, but judgemental and always looking for an opportunity to punish and correct., Again, they are victims of religious spirit or religious demon that has convinced them that they are doing Me a favor when in fact they are scattering the sheep I have worked so hard to bring into the fold. They perceive themselves as powerful prophets of wrath sent to pronounce judgement on the nations and yet judgement is on their doorstep.
Oh Clare, it is sad to see these poor ones bent and twisted from birth by those who do not know Me. This is why your channel has become so important to others.
You know Me and they hear My voice when you share our conversations. And oh how they have hungered to hear Me. They have heard men over and over and over again and all they want is to love Me and to be loved by Me not to have a stack of religious rules imposed upon them when the only reason they came there was to seek Me and to be closer to Me. Those who are shepherds after My own heart are terribly persecuted but then they wear My crown of thorns and it is fitting and still they choose to love and not hate. This is My true nature. Father, forgive them they know not what they do.
There is one other aspect that I've not covered. Many times those who have taken on this role are mentally disturbed and abused from childhood, they see the harshness and punishing role authority figures have and transfer that image to the final authority figure, God. The fault is really with those who never really loved them. They should have seen the final authority figure as loving, kind and corrective but the love got left out. So they take on that role with others in harshness and bitterness.
And finally as My servant Paul said 1 Cor. 13:1 "If I speak in the tongues of men or of angels but do not have love, I am only a resounding gong or clanging cymbal. If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have faith that can move mountains but do not have love, I am nothing. If I give all that I possess to the poor and give over my body to hardship that I may boast but do not have love, I gained nothing. Love is patient, love is kind it does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud, it does not dishonor others, it is not self seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs, love does not delight in evil, but rejoices with the truth, it always protects, always trusts, always hopes and always perseveres."
Clare: The other scripture that came to mind after the Lord quoted this one was 1 John 4 "We love because He first loved us."
And then the Lord broke in and said
Jesus: This is a failure. Those who judge have never known My love.
Clare: And scripture continues: "If someone says I love God and hates his brother, he's a liar. For the one who does not love his brother whom he has seen cannot love God whom he has not seen. And this commandment we have from Him, that the the one who loves God should love his brother also."
And I want to add that perhaps someone thinks that they are loving, come on the channel and cause all kinds of problems and disrupt the flow of what is going on and they may think that I love them but I'm gonna tell them the truth, but the Lord doesn't see it that way. He's seeing it from the vantage point of He's trying to bring the sheep together, and someone else comes along and tries to scatter them. That hurts the Lord.
Jesus: You may have gathered from what I've said before, I use My enemies to form and correct My vessels. If I want him to increase in love and compassion, I send those who are critical and mean spirited without understanding of how I'm working through you. In this way I know you will become more pliable, more compassionate and pray for them. In the end Clare, I use everything and everyone to accomplish My ends for I shall complete the good work in you that I have begun and I use everyone and everything to that end.
I know you're dying to share that story so go ahead.
Clare: Yes, I've been dying to share ever since beginning of this message. Yes, Lord, it's true I can't hide anything from You. This is a story told by Graham Cooke. I can't remember if it was a dream or a vision that he had, but the Lord showed him a full-sized-hand-carved stone statue that was exquisitely done. Graham asked Him who is that statue of? Jesus replied: that's you. Would you like to meet the artists? Of course Graham said yes. Then Jesus showed Him the two men who've been persecuting him for years, sitting in the front row of every convention and then writing scathing reviews of his teachings. And this has been going on for years and years.
Indeed Lord, you do use everything and everyone to shape and form us.
Jesus: My love, I want you to remember this teaching, but more importantly I want you to pray for the one who's been persecuting you. This is My heartfelt request from you.
ENEMIES
Pray for our our enemies so that they may be enlightened.
Jesus: Father, forgive them, they know not what they do.
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An excerpt on the conversation of our Lord Jesus and Clare on enemies
Jesus: There is so much more to the refining fire of enemies than anyone is truly aware of. They are My refining fire, a force to be reckoned with when loosed, a force to be pitied when bound and I have total control at all times.
Clare: Oh Lord, that part is so challenging. How can You allow things to happen such as this ruthless killing?
Before I go on with the Lord answering this question, I just wanted to make you aware of another video where He explained the destiny of certain souls that is agreed upon before they're born into this world and that plays as a factor into this as well. There are things we just don't know about the creation of that soul and about their agreement with God at that time that they were sent into their bodies. We just don't know what their destiny is and the Lord does know and He understands and there is an agreement there.
Jesus: That's just the problem Clare, you are not Me and you do not see as I see. You have only one millisecond to the whole plan, a flake of frost on a tip of an iceberg. Oh, there's so much more to see, but for now I ask only that you to trust Me and listen.
Clare: Sorry.
Jesus: No, nothing to be sorry about, I anticipated your reaction and it fits right in with the thoughts of others as well.
When you hear a story told, you get only one side and the current one at that. Beneath that tiny flake of frost, is an iceberg of history. Things that never entered peoples' minds because they don't think as I think, nor do they care to know what I think. That is why so many things are a mystery to them. That does not mean to not be empathetic and pray. No, brotherly love and prayer are extremely important. You could be in their shoes tomorrow. There are generational curses, hidden sins, cultural influences, inter-relational dynamics between each person involved and even their generational curses. Things that go back hundreds and even sometimes thousands of years. This does not occur to the casual bystander but the angels are aware that is why you will at times feel strong warnings, not to do something or to go somewhere or get involved with someone. Your angels can see what's coming. Holy Spirit will also recoil with apprehension on your conscience. I do protect you, but once you step outside the realm of obedience, I can no longer protect you as I wish to. You see the demons are My policemen. They wait in line all day to sift the believer. Sometimes they line up around the block, so to speak, just to get one shot at a soul. Once a believer has crossed the line and disobeyed, however, permission is given but only so far. In other words, what they are allowed to do or not do is controlled by My permission. In other situations, I allow the demons permission because I'm perfecting a soul in virtue and patience, forgiveness. And virtue needs to be cultivated. At the very same time when I allow an attack from the demon, I know how it will affect the soul and that they will in turn pray for those who are being used to attack. Very often those souls have no one to pray for them and the one whom they attack are My very last resort to find intercessors. This has been the case on your channel as well. Those who have attacked you for no reason at all are in serious need of intercession. Their salvation is at stake.
Clare: Oh Lord, that is so very sad.
Jesus: It is indeed. Clare, I need your prayers for them. You see, some people have been brought up to believe that I'm a God of harshness, hatred and punishment. This is because people around them misrepresented Me. They were controlled by a religious spirit that is simply a demon very often of judgement, bitterness, unforgiveness and criticism; mixed with persecution in the belief that they are acting in righteousness to correct false prophets. They in a sense become the savior and god because they are taking My role upon themselves. This parallels the messiah complex except instead of taking on the sins of the world, they become the prosecuting attorney and judge passing judgement on everyone that does not live up to their harsh image of Me. You see they are not used to hearing Me as a gentle and loving God. They cannot imagine the face of the innocent newborn being the very accurate image of My loving Father's own face as you do. They see Him as mean and cruel and continually corrective of fallen mankind in whom there is no good thing, turning thunderbolts of justice and wanting to annihilate anyone who fall short of their idea of holiness. It is because they are so eaten up with hatred,judgement, bitterness and even jealousy that they're in dire danger of losing their souls. But in their understanding, it is all the others that are going to hell, while they are the only holy savior making corrections with harsh attack at anyone they consider a heretic.
You see, you have found Me to be gentle, kindly and helpful when you fall. You didn't always see Me this way. But because you've opened your heart to Mine, you do. For instance when you were in the grocery store, very very tired and didn't use the best judgement in what you bought. You came home feeling badly and even very badly that you should be harshly punished and what did I say to you?
Clare: Your so sweet Jesus.I just melted in repentance and you said I will help you make better decisions next time.
Jesus: And this is truly My nature. It is My kindness that leads to repentance with gentle souls and sometimes even violent souls. When they feel My love and forgiveness wash over them they melt and repentance flows like a river from their sinful souls. It is only with stubborn self willed and obtuse souls, that I Am at times forced to use more forceful corrections which I hate. So when I see others doing this to My chosen vessels, I love them unconditionally but I'm not happy with their behavior yet I allow it because they need prayer. I understand that they don't truly who I Am. I Am a God of righteousness but I tenderly carry the lambs in My arms and lead the years with wisdom and gentleness. I even speak this way to My shepherds so that they will in turn learn the language of love. Love and righteousness cannot be separated. They go hand in hand. Some are of the impression that they can wield the sword with righteousness and love is not even in the picture. They don't feel loved. They feel hatred, anger and bitterness. They wield unkind words in an unkind way and then expect everyone to obey them and all they do is run from them. This causes them to sink more deeply into bitterness and judgement.
You see My sheep know My voice and in another they will not follow., So without love, it is impossible to lead My sheep or to correct and guide them and never should the motives of others be judged. That is My job and My job alone. Those who do this do not know Me. They know a Jesus who is not kind and tender, but judgemental and always looking for an opportunity to punish and correct., Again, they are victims of religious spirit or religious demon that has convinced them that they are doing Me a favor when in fact they are scattering the sheep I have worked so hard to bring into the fold. They perceive themselves as powerful prophets of wrath sent to pronounce judgement on the nations and yet judgement is on their doorstep.
Oh Clare, it is sad to see these poor ones bent and twisted from birth by those who do not know Me. This is why your channel has become so important to others.
You know Me and they hear My voice when you share our conversations. And oh how they have hungered to hear Me. They have heard men over and over and over again and all they want is to love Me and to be loved by Me not to have a stack of religious rules imposed upon them when the only reason they came there was to seek Me and to be closer to Me. Those who are shepherds after My own heart are terribly persecuted but then they wear My crown of thorns and it is fitting and still they choose to love and not hate. This is My true nature. Father, forgive them they know not what they do.
There is one other aspect that I've not covered. Many times those who have taken on this role are mentally disturbed and abused from childhood, they see the harshness and punishing role authority figures have and transfer that image to the final authority figure, God. The fault is really with those who never really loved them. They should have seen the final authority figure as loving, kind and corrective but the love got left out. So they take on that role with others in harshness and bitterness.
And finally as My servant Paul said 1 Cor. 13:1 "If I speak in the tongues of men or of angels but do not have love, I am only a resounding gong or clanging cymbal. If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have faith that can move mountains but do not have love, I am nothing. If I give all that I possess to the poor and give over my body to hardship that I may boast but do not have love, I gained nothing. Love is patient, love is kind it does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud, it does not dishonor others, it is not self seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs, love does not delight in evil, but rejoices with the truth, it always protects, always trusts, always hopes and always perseveres."
Clare: The other scripture that came to mind after the Lord quoted this one was 1 John 4 "We love because He first loved us."
And then the Lord broke in and said
Jesus: This is a failure. Those who judge have never known My love.
Clare: And scripture continues: "If someone says I love God and hates his brother, he's a liar. For the one who does not love his brother whom he has seen cannot love God whom he has not seen. And this commandment we have from Him, that the the one who loves God should love his brother also."
And I want to add that perhaps someone thinks that they are loving, come on the channel and cause all kinds of problems and disrupt the flow of what is going on and they may think that I love them but I'm gonna tell them the truth, but the Lord doesn't see it that way. He's seeing it from the vantage point of He's trying to bring the sheep together, and someone else comes along and tries to scatter them. That hurts the Lord.
Jesus: You may have gathered from what I've said before, I use My enemies to form and correct My vessels. If I want him to increase in love and compassion, I send those who are critical and mean spirited without understanding of how I'm working through you. In this way I know you will become more pliable, more compassionate and pray for them. In the end Clare, I use everything and everyone to accomplish My ends for I shall complete the good work in you that I have begun and I use everyone and everything to that end.
I know you're dying to share that story so go ahead.
Clare: Yes, I've been dying to share ever since beginning of this message. Yes, Lord, it's true I can't hide anything from You. This is a story told by Graham Cooke. I can't remember if it was a dream or a vision that he had, but the Lord showed him a full-sized-hand-carved stone statue that was exquisitely done. Graham asked Him who is that statue of? Jesus replied: that's you. Would you like to meet the artists? Of course Graham said yes. Then Jesus showed Him the two men who've been persecuting him for years, sitting in the front row of every convention and then writing scathing reviews of his teachings. And this has been going on for years and years.
Indeed Lord, you do use everything and everyone to shape and form us.
Jesus: My love, I want you to remember this teaching, but more importantly I want you to pray for the one who's been persecuting you. This is My heartfelt request from you.
I bless all of you My children but I look specially fondly on all of you who have nothing but love in your hearts for those who are troubled like this soul. By your love, you prove to Me you are truly My disciples and brides. This man will be saved because of your heartfelt prayers. He surely will.
