Monday, November 8, 2010

Separation of State and the Church

Separation of Church & the Government (for the president and the legislators)

The United States whose constitution was framed with God in mind, was blessed tremendously by God. But because they don’t want to acknowledge Him in classrooms, did away with the rod to discipline their children, the government does not want the Church to meddle with the affairs of the government, allowed divorce, abortion, and allowed same sex marriage in some states; morality has degenerated, and killing and suicide is rampant.

The once beautiful America, a very powerful country, is now saddled by massive debts.

Let’s go back to the time of Presidents George Washington, Abraham Lincoln, Woodrow Wilson, James Madison, and some justices of the U.S and the Church on the separation of state and government.

Did you know that the Catholic Church formally condemns the false opinion, “The Church must be separated from the State, and the State from the Church”? Did you know that the Catholic Church calls the separation of Church and State “a fatal theory”?And that to banish religion from the laws and from society is "a grave and fatal error”?
The Church will never accept “practices and doctrines which a perversion of morals and a warped judgment have unlawfully introduced”, such as the legalization of abortion. Also, the Church insists that governments “should be constituted without involving wrong to any one.”Furthermore, harmony should exist between Church and State: “This harmony has been not inaptly compared to that which exists between the body and the soul for the well-being of both one and the other, the separation of which brings irremediable harm to the body, since it extinguishes its very life.”

John Adams, just 21 days before he signed the Declaration of Independence, wrote:
“Statesmen, my dear sir, may plan and speculate for liberty, but it is religion and morality alone, which can establish the principles upon which freedom can securely stand. The only foundation of a free Constitution is pure virtue, and if this cannot be inspired into our people in a greater measure, than they have it now, they may change their rulers and the forms of government, but they will not obtain a lasting liberty.”

George Washington proclaimed that all nations have a duty to publicly acknowledge God: “Whereas it is the duty of all nations to acknowledge the providence of Almighty God, to obey His will, to be grateful for His benefits, and humbly to implore His protection and favor….”Almost one hundred years later, President Abraham Lincoln emphasized that “it is the duty of nations as well as men to own their dependence upon the overruling power of God”. James Madison, fourth President of the United States, wrote:
“We have staked the whole future of American civilization not upon the power of government, far from it. We have staked the future of all our political institutions upon the capacity of each and all of us to govern ourselves according to the Ten Commandments of God.”
He also stressed:
“The future and success of America is not in this Constitution, but in the laws of God upon which this Constitution is founded.”
These presidential statements conform to the Church’s teaching, as proclaimed by Pope Leo XIII: “…civil society must acknowledge God as its Founder and Parent, and must obey and reverence His power and authority. Justice therefore forbids, and reason itself forbids, the State to be godless….”

The Christian foundation of the United States was the Founders’ glory. In the words of President John Quincy Adams, “The highest glory of the American Revolution was this: that it connected, in one indissoluble bond, the principles of civil government with the principles of Christianity.”

George Washington, who presided over the Constitutional Convention, said, “If I could have entertained the slightest apprehension that the Constitution framed at the Convention, where I had the honor to preside, might possibly endanger the religious rights of any ecclesiastical Society, certainly I would not have placed my signature on it.”

The first Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, John Jay, wrote:
“Providence has given to our people the choice of their rulers, and it is the duty ... of our Christian nation to select and prefer Christians for their rulers.” (1816)
Justice David Brewer stated:
“This is a religious people. This is historically true. From the discovery of this continent to the present hour, there is a single voice making this affirmation…. We find everywhere a clear recognition of the same truth…. These, and many other matters which might be noticed, add a volume of unofficial declarations to the mass of organic utterances that this is a Christian nation.” (1892)

George Washington himself warned, “Do not let anyone claim to be a true American if they ever attempt to remove religion from politics.” This is the true role that Christianity played in the founding and growth of the United States.

Not only is absolute separation of Church and State un-American, it is also an error that is promoted by the communists. This interesting fact will shed a great deal of light:
“This phrase [separation of Church and State] does not appear in our Constitution or any of our country’s official documents. It does, however, appear in another prominent document, the Constitution of the former Soviet Union: ‘The church in the U.S.S.R. is separated from the state and the school from the church.’(Article 52)”
It is worth repeating that the Catholic Church, through Pope Leo XIII and Pope Pius IX, formally condemned the separation of Church and State as an error and "a fatal theory". It is plainly obvious why it is an error. Currently in the United States murder of the unborn for the sake of convenience is considered a personal “freedom”, prayer is outlawed in public schools, and the fatal theory of separation of church and state has been and is being used as a weapon to remove Christianity from the public sector.

The Bible clearly states, “There is not power but from God” (Rom 13:1). All power comes from God and according to His providential plan, legitimate rulers participate in God’s power over the world. The Church states that it is an absurdity for the commands of God to be disregarded in the framing of laws:
“There are others, somewhat more moderate though not more consistent, who affirm that the morality of individuals is to be guided by the divine law, but not the morality of the State, for that in public affairs the commands of God may be passed over, and may be entirely disregarded in the framing of laws. Hence follows the fatal theory of the need of separation between Church and State.”

Justice Rehnquist: U.S. not founded on absolute Church-State separation
In the 1985 Supreme Court case Wallace v. Jaffree, Justice William Rehnquist dissented from the majority opinion and explained in very detailed historical terms the fact that an absolute Church-State separation never existed in the United States. He explained that the framers of the First Amendment (including the chief framer, James Madison), merely had in mind that the United States government should not establish a national religion. He referred back to the Court’s own words thirty-eight years previous, which said:
"In the words of Jefferson, the clause against establishment of religion by law was intended to erect ‘a wall of separation between church and State.’ Reynolds v. United States, [98 U.S. 145, 164, 25 L.Ed. 244 (1879)]."
Rehnquist then went on to give several proofs that there never was an absolute separation of Church and State, and that the following incidents could never have occurred if such was the case.
Restore America to “one nation under God”
The United States owes her greatness to the goodness of Almighty God, who has showered our country with so many blessings throughout its history. Pope Leo XIII wrote, “Reason shows, and history confirms the fact, that the higher the morality of States, the greater are the liberty and wealth and power which they enjoy.”

President Woodrow Wilson stated:
“America was born a Christian nation. America was born to exemplify that devotion to the elements of righteousness which are derived from the revelations of the Holy Scripture.”

Our Lady and Lord Jesus' Messages

“Learn a simple lesson from the past, My children. When the morals of a country stare to go down into darkness, and the teachings turn from God to man, that country will soon be ended. First the spiritual life and then the material life of your country shall be destroyed.” - Jesus October 2, 1976

THE UNITED STATES SHALL FALL

"How can a great country like the United States fall, you say, My child? You ask Me in your heart. I read your heart. I will tell you why. Because they have given themselves over to satan. When a country has lost its morality and seeks the pleasures of the flesh, giving over, themselves over, to all manner of abominations, like homosexuality, and condoning this up the highest courts of the land, then that country shall fall." - Our Lady of the Roses, November 1, 1985
tldm

if you in your turn had only understood the Splendour of My Message of Peace! but, alas, it is hidden from your eyes!" if you in your turn had only grasped the Splendour of My Holy Spirit, bestowing blessing upon blessing on all of you ... but, alas, you neither see nor hear the Advocate, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father sends in My Name, teaching you and reminding you of all the truths I have given you, because the prince of this world is using your freedom for your own downfall; tlig